bob, what do you expect for him when he comes back from martha's vineyard? >> i think he's going to try to work this out so we don't have a shutdown and don't crash the full faith and credit of the united states by playing political games with the debt limit. i there your larger point is absolutely correct. he's going to talking about obama care. i know the white house believes it's an asset. i know john believes it's a liability. we're going to find out because we're going to hash this out in the next few months into the next year, into 2016. i think, i don't call it dependence on big government. i think when people finally have health care as a matter of right and not a privilege, when you aren't in a situation where you could die or you can't get an illness treated because you don't have the money, i think that's going to become very popular and i think obama is going to win that fight. >> gentlemen, it's pretty clear president obama thinks a republican government shutdown would be bad politics for the gop. here's what he said last friday. >> i think the